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significant problems, and i think if we don't address the deficit, if we don't address it, i've become more and more convinced that we don't necessarily go gradually into problems, that we could go precipitously into a problem. and i say that with reference to 2008 and to the crisis. that i think there is even when things seem to be going pretty well, there is and are some lurking dangers within our economy. one would be interest rates rising. and i ask this question all the time to people i consider to be, you know, smart, big bankers, people in the major capital centers of the world, can we control interest rates and keep interest rates low? is there a breaking point at which the central bank cannot keep interest rates at this point? because interest rates at 5%, interest rates of 7% or when i was a kid, interest rates of 19 president or 21%, i think, would be catastrophic with this burden of debt. seems to work right now, but i also think that there's a certain illusion both of wealth in the stock market and an illusion of the ease at which we can manage our debt. and so those are my con
to have sustained and balanced approach to both reducing the deficit but making some of the critical investments that we need to make, and actually the budget anticipates -- >> we are all -- i should add, start in row. we are all cheers about the magnificent contribution to brain research. thank you. >> i think that's an example of the presidency believe that we ur proper t sinst, and certainly scientifc sech is one of the most critical investments to keep the innovation and research at the front and. so we very much support outlining the mapping strategy which could have a huge impact not only on the future but we think about health costs related to everything from autism to alzheimer's, and if you want to really get our arms around what's happened to health costs in the future, just brain mapping, has an enormous impact. and as you say, i think dr. collins estimates that is about a 71 return, that every dollar in research grant generates about $7 in economic activity in the community where those research grants end up in terms of jobs and scientists. so this is clearly a win-win in
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